Posted on July 9, 2016 at 6:25 pm
New (old) pictures come to light in wake of Elie Wiesel’s death
BY CAROLYN YEAGER
copyright Carolyn Yeager 2016
Though they say a picture is worth a thousand words, these two need some explanation. One is from 1987, the other from 2006. Since the more recent one will arouse much more attention, I better start with that.
This 2006 photograph taken by Eyal Toueg, displayed in a July 9th “Premium” article by Shlomo Nakdimon at Haaretz, has been cropped by me to remove some of the dark space to the right … the better to see the important details. This may be the first time it has been published.
You will notice right away that there is a smudge on Wiesel’s left forearm, precisely where an Auschwitz tattoo would be. Many people will say, Oh, that’s his very, very faded and blurred tattoo. But it looks more like a bruise, and, by using your keyboard to enlarge the image while retaining a clear resolution, you’ll find, as I did, that it then looks even more like a bruise the larger you go. Plus there seems to be more bruise just above it where his right arm meets his left. [I’m speaking tongue-in-cheek here, and below. I don’t actually think it is a bruise, but all we can see, even highly enlarged, is a smudged blue area that looks like a bruise. So what are we to call it?]
[To enlarge the image, first click on it to get the full size image, then hold down the Ctrl key while clicking the plus (+) key as many times as you can or want. To bring it back to normal, do the same with the minus (-) key. Both keys are on the upper right next to “backspace”]
This photograph has to be from the same photo session that includes the one where he’s sitting with the oversize Hebrew book — he’s wearing the same white knit golf shirt and his hair is the same. That one has been used by Wiesel defenders to suggest there is a faint tattoo on his arm. You can see it here and here.
However, this kind of thing is the typical Wiesel mode of operation throughout his life. He refuses to be explicit about his person and his personal life, even though he gets very explicit about things like the “shades of wateriness of the soup” and the face of the boy he wrote was hanged in Auschwitz. But his own body–which can be checked–he offers not a word of description. And looking at this blue-black discoloration, I can see nothing—even with using all my imagination—that I could imagine to be a 7713. I know you can’t either, but you might try to come up with some theory about it. I have my own theory, that Wiesel pinched himself real hard the day before the photographer came.
In 2006 he was 77 years old, an age when it’s extremely easy to bruise the skin. And that’s what it looks like. Recall the tattoos of so many other inmates from his same time there — none look like this.
But I have a second theory, which might be better — that Wiesel had applied his own tattoo number with ink but he didn’t go deep enough. It was only applied to the dermis (outer layer of skin), not the epidermis, and so it disappeared over time as new skin cells grew until now it is just a smudge of dispersed ink. Remember the top photo on this page that doesn’t look like a real tattoo — this may be when he did it.
Now, the other picture indicts him even more. He is in Lyon, France for the Klaus Barbie show trial and stops by the Holocaust Memorial there on June 2, 1987. He just won the Nobel Peace Prize 6 months earlier, and this Buchenwald liberation photo was associated with him winning that prize. You recall right after the ceremony he traveled to Yad Vashem in Jerusalem and posed in front of a large blow-up of this very photograph.
Elie Wiesel, winner of the 1986 Nobel Peace prize, visits the Holocaust Memorial in Lyon, France, June 2, 1987. The photo on the wall shows prisoners of the German Buchenwald concentration camp inside their barracks, five days after U.S troops took over the camp near Weimar, Germany. Wiesel points to himself in the picture. (AP Photo/Laurent Rebours)
Notice that Michael Grüner on the bottom row was cropped out of this version, along with the tall standing man, but there is Mel Mermelstein peeking out from the upper far right. Mel wrote a whole book about his incarceration before Wiesel said in 1983 that he was in this picture, but Mel never mentioned knowing the already famous Elie Wiesel there in his book! Mermelstein resided in the children’s barrack, too.
In this photograph, the unkempt Wiesel is sealing his doom by pointing directly to the unknown person (not him) he is claiming to be himself. And with such a guilty expression, too! Nothing could prove his dishonesty and forgery better than this.
I came upon this picture in the Time magazine Elie Wiesel photo collection posted at the time of his death. When I saw this one I quickly saved it. This might be my all-time favorite picture of the Wiesel. I will surely make more use of it.
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23 Comments to New (old) pictures come to light in wake of Elie Wiesel’s death
by Richard Powell
On July 10, 2016 at 12:05 pm
You must be a very miserable person.
Knowing that you’re almost alone in this world in this bizarre and silly questioning of tattoos’ shapes and ink quantity.
Fortunately, all decent people in this universe care WHY other people were tattooed 70 years ago only because it happened for them to be born in a race or religion that only by chance you weren’t born the same. They care about the classification, the dehumanization and the extermination that were associated with these tattoos.
And there are a very few miserable pathetic (like you) are dealing with these nonsense details of ink and shapes, in fact denying all these well-documented and proven facts because they want to see them happen again. As one writer said once, ‘The Holocaust never happened, but it was awesome!’
I’m leaving you in your loneliness. You and your co-nazis are disappearing along with your nasty ‘ideas’. The world conscience goes to a direction where killing someone because of his origin and his random birth as of this or that race and religion will not be acceptable.
You can dive in your misery. You’re the past and not even a 1% of this world likes you.
by Carolyn
On July 10, 2016 at 5:24 pm
To Richard Powell – (same Jew using a different fake Anglo name each time, saying basically the same thing)
Hardly. It’s pathetic you have reduced yourself to such an impoverished comment.
IF they were tattooed. Most were not, and so can’t be classified in that group.
NO, wrong, the people with tattoos stayed alive … along with the people without tattoos. :-) Why do you want so much for it to be otherwise? And only Auschwitz-Birkenau tattooed their inmates, so are you saying at the other camps everything was fine?
I’m not alone or lonely. You probably are.
Race is not random; it is genetic, and carries a distinct physical-intellectual inheritance by people with a history. A Semite does not randomly give birth to a non-Semite, and vice-versa. Eliezer Wiesel named his son Shlomo Elisha Wiesel after his father Shlomo Elisha Wiesel. Son Elisha then named his son Elijah. [See here #2] Nothing random about that. Religion can be changed; race cannot.
by brucewhain
On July 10, 2016 at 4:06 pm
When the Michael Grüner referred to above – who claims Wiezel stole his Yiddish manuscript as the basis for “Night” – is completely in agreement with our “theories” about Wiezel’s holocaust fraudulence, the question arises of who the “decent people” really are. Certainly not Wiezel! That’s preposterous. He is the King of Holocaust Extortion and defamation.
by Mikael Olafsson
On July 10, 2016 at 4:35 pm
Well, if it would have been a tattoo, it’s not 7713, A7713 or A-7713. Could’ve be more like 8716 . ;)
The tattoo size is too small compared to other examples.
And there’s also fake tattoos…
Bernard Holstein/Bernard Brougham
and Joseph Hirt had/have fake tattoos.
Then there’s this…uhm…”legacy” thing…
“Mr. Diamant had the same tattoo, the number 157622, permanently inked on his own arm by the Nazis at Auschwitz. Nearly 70 years later, Ms. Sagir got hers at a hip tattoo parlor downtown after a high school trip to Poland. The next week, her mother and brother also had the six digits inscribed onto their forearms. This month, her uncle followed suit.”
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/49236457/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times
No problems with religious law forbidding tattoos…
I guess that all those with 157622 number can claim money from the German government when sad violin music plays background.
by Charles Krafft
On July 10, 2016 at 8:49 pm
I just did a quick and cursory Images search of “Elie Wiesel tattoo” and came up with this: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2b8uo3/my_grandfather_is_a_holocaust_survivor_that_is/
and this: http://www.eleventhebook.com/2014/04/happy-69th-birthday-86-year-old-friend/
Holocaust tattoos don’t have any standardized size, look, or placement on the arm which makes identification of what appears to me at first glance to be an old worn out tattoo on Elie Wiesel’s forearm impossible.
The fact that he, among all the tattoed camp inmates who survived WWII, decided it was sacreligious to display his makes me doubt he had one. I tried to contact that Slovenian-American reporter who wrote he’d showed her nhis tattoo a few years ago and got no response.
Carlos W.Porter’s essay on KZ tattoos “SHOW ME OR DRAW ME A NAZI “TATTOOING MACHINE” is a bit of a stretch when he writes “there is not the slightest proof that the National Socialists tattooed anyone, ever, at Auschwitz or anywhere else.” I recall thinking after reading it years ago, “Geeze, I’m a Holocaust denier and even I don’t believe this!” I once worked as fishmonger alongside a Jew with a tattoo and I’m pretty certain he didn’t put it on himself.
by Carolyn
On July 10, 2016 at 10:24 pm
Charles, your 2nd example Andrew Roth, #A-8520 … so happens when I put that number into the Auschwitz-Birkenau online search database, it comes up Ester Allalu, who lived in Block 22B, Birkenau.
The databases are rigged, though; the Auschwitz Museum is as crooked as the USHMM. That Reddit group you linked to is just filled with liars, and I guess Jews who want to push this stuff. I was going to write about one man who posted there with the help of his grandson, but never got to it.
In my opinion, the standard location for the tattoo at Auschwitz was the outer left forearm. I guess some may have been placed on the inside of the arm, but the really weird-looking and oversize ones are probably not real.
by Ron Mortimer
On July 11, 2016 at 2:24 am
Richard
You sound like I must have sounded 25 or so years ago when I was a true believer in the Holocaust and general Nazi evilness.
It all started to unravel for me when in the early 1990’s I learned that the Auschwitz museum had removed a plaque stating that 4 million were killed there replacing it with one stating that 1-1.5 million had been killed.
I asked myself, “how can this be?”…such a discrepancy.If the new figure was correct then the old one must have been an exaggeration. If that was an exaggeration what is to say that the new figure is any more reliable?But what really did it for me was the unchanged total of 6 million. 6-3=6
Then later on I learned that the so called ‘gas chamber’ at Auschwitz was a post war construction by the Soviets who controlled the camp after the war.
Then it emerged that the soap and lampshade stories were admitted to be false by none other than Deborah Lipstadt.
By then I had long since stopped believing in the ‘Holocaust’ and each new revelation hardly surprises me….
So, does that make me a bad person because I could no longer reconcile the evidence with my former belief? Should I be condemned for using my own mind to come to my own conclusions regardless of others?
So, do your own research, come to your own conclusions, debate others if you want, see where it all leads, but don’t try to insult others for seeing things differently.
by D.Davidson
On July 11, 2016 at 4:12 am
The official Holocaust story tells us that at Auschwitz all children on arrival were sent immediately to the gas chambers. Elie Wiesel would have been 15 years old or thereabouts in January 1945, therefore, he was classed as a child and wouldn’t have a tattoo. Why would the Germans waste time and materials tattooing people if they were going straight to the gas chambers? Anyone who is between 71 and 75 and has a tattoo and says they are an Auschwitz survivor must be a liar. By the way, the Germans knew exactly who was on each transport, their names,ages, and gender.How else would they know who to put on the trains? The reason for the tattoos would have been to keep track of all inmates wherever they were at all times within the huge complex which was Auschwitz and surrounding camps etc. Much easier than lots of paperwork I’m sure. The children wouldn’t need tattoos as they were incapable of work, at least heavy work and of course they would have been with their tattooed families.
by Carolyn
On July 11, 2016 at 7:44 am
D. Davidson wrote: “The official Holocaust story tells us that at Auschwitz all children on arrival were sent immediately to the gas chambers.”
I don’t know what is official about this story. It is repeated a lot, but many surlievors say they were 11, 12, 13 years old when they arrived, but they convinced the guard (what about Mengele??) that they were older. Elie Wiesel would have been 15 years old in May 1944, not 16 until Sept. 30.
I agree with you that the transports came with a list of those on board, with their vital information; the SS would not have depended on the prisoners themselves to tell them. That is so ridiculous.
Yes, the tattoos took the place of identity cards that the prisoners would have had to carry at all times. Knowing they would (or did) switch their identity cards among themselves or otherwise misrepresent themselves, this was a sure-fire way to prevent that. It was NOT done to demean or punish them. So it could be that women with children and the elderly (who resided in Birkenau) were not considered risks of this type, so were not tattooed.
by Carolyn
On July 11, 2016 at 10:33 am
Re the second photo – we must remember that Wiesel claimed, in Un di Velt hot geshvign (And the world remained silent), in Night, and in his autobiography All Rivers Run to the Sea, that he was in the hospital near death on the date this Buchenwald barracks picture was taken. Can you imagine that much chutzpah!
by josejoa
On July 12, 2016 at 1:31 pm
Yes, I think he is a phony man. I read “if this is a man” of Primo Levi, and the time they both were in the Buna camp, their stories are very different, the Wiesel story is very sweet compared to the Primo one, even in the Wiesel story they said “it was a good camp” as if an Auschwitz camp could be good. Jews don’t deserve this phony man and the media that supported him.
by Carolyn
On July 12, 2016 at 8:56 pm
josejoa – Primo Levi is just as phony as Wiesel, but he didn’t become as famous. His book is not read in high schools all around the world, so not many people know about him. (Levi didn’t have access to Oprah Winfrey :-)) But there is some criticism of Levi you can find online.
by Douglas
On July 20, 2016 at 12:32 pm
I read Wiesel’s comic book Night and nearly burst a blood vessel I laughed so hard. It is a shame that the pages of the laughable book are so rough as to make them almost useless as toilet paper as that is where his book as well as himself belong in the sewer.
by christine
On June 18, 2017 at 12:01 am
If you’re claiming that blue mark on Wiesel’s arm is a bruise, then why is that same bruise on his arm in photos of him taken when he was in his 20’s and 30’s?
by Carolyn
On June 18, 2017 at 9:54 am
In his 20’s and 30’s? If you have any pictures of Wiesel’s bare arm in his 20’s and 30’s, I’d like to see them. The only photographic images I’ve seen are from Wiesel still in his teens and in his 70’s.
You are cherry-picking from the article to make an argument. I said two things: first, that it looked like a bruise which may have been self-inflicted (which was intended to be funny and I’m sorry now I said it) and second, I had a second, better theory which was that he tattooed himself but didn’t do a proper job (not deep enough) and in time it dispersed. It may not have been the right number, either.
So christine, can you show us evidence of the number A-7713 on Wiesel’s arm? I didn’t think so. And if he couldn’t either, that could be why he refused to ever “show it.”
by Jerry Hamilton
On September 27, 2017 at 12:35 pm
Your eyesight is bad.
Take another look.
There are other numbers on his arm before the area you talk about starts.
Horizontal ending in 55
by Carolyn
On September 30, 2017 at 10:01 pm
Jerry Hamilton – I don’t see what you’re referring to as “before the area I talk about starts”, but 55 is no part of A-7713 so what is your point?
by Andy
On October 14, 2017 at 2:37 am
Now it is all available on http://www.codoh.com It is strange to say that there are no facts about Elie Wiesel: no registration of him ever in the camps, but there was that nr A 7713 given to Lazar Wiesel, born 1913 Find the latest under https://codoh.com/library/document/4446/?lang=en by Mattogno. a proper scholar with access to all the documents. Stop listening to the story of the victors and dare to look at reality instead of old war propaganda please.
by Carolyn
On October 14, 2017 at 9:13 am
Andy – FYI this article has been available since 2010 at the Inconvenient History Revisionist BLOG, started by Thomas Kues and Wilf Heink several years earlier than that. Since they were no longer able to keep it up, it has reverted to the management of codoh.com and has become very user-unfriendly, as is the codoh style. Many of my own revisionist articles were posted there but can no longer be found, while some articles that were never posted there have been taken from this site and posted there! When or how this all happened, I have no idea.
I am glad I got this website out of the hands of CODOH and its changing panorama of “volunteers” and into solely my own secure hands.
by Andy
On October 15, 2017 at 6:17 pm
Thank you,Carolyn, I will check with Germar whom I spoke to recently via Skype. It would be a shame to see that website changed by volunteers without communication with you etc.
Still, it is amazing with all that evidence that Mattogno put on the site, that people cannot understand that Elie Wiesel took on nr A-7713, which was not him, still cannot admit the reality of the impostor. Probably takes a new generation who can look at things more objectively and scientifically without the emotion determining and overriding facts.
by Michael
On August 8, 2023 at 6:00 am
Carolyn,
Regarding the 2006 photo of Weasel’s arm and alleged tattoo. 2006 is 61 years after WWII ended and what, 63 yrs after his allegedly being tattooed. I have a “jailhouse” tattoo (I was young and told a Traffic Judge to eff himself and got 30 days for Contempt) from 1976 or 47 years ago that while somewhat stretched out over the years is still ‘clearly’ identifiable and readable from a distance. What is on Weasel’s arm does not look like any tattoo.
Just sayin.
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